Live Trading Performance Not Matching Demo Trading Success
I have long been a proponent of new traders getting their feet wet in live trading as quickly as possible after they have developed the basic trade entry and management skills (albeit on a very small scale). My reason for that is the exposure to the prospect of real loss alters the psychology of things dramatically. This email I received is a very good example of that.
There isn’t really a question as such, although I suppose it is.
Its the mental attitude I’m finding difficult to resolve when I change from demo to live. Demo accounts I’ve doubled, live accounts I’ve lost to much money.
Someone said to me in an email its a case of just thinking your still on demo, I wish it was that easy. I feel its more a case of confidence in myself and sticking to my system rules no matter whether the trade goes against me or not. That’s the hardest part I think watching while it swings against you and hoping that you have allowed enough stop loss before it swings back, timing may be an area I’ll have to look into, dropping down onto a lower time frame possibly.
I’m definitely going to disagree with the advice this person received about “just thinking your still on demo”. That’s actually the reverse of what needs to be done, to my mind. Trading like you’re still on demo probably means acting in a riskier fashion than you can do trading live. You need to take the reverse view and trade demo like you would trade live. It’s not easy, though, to be sure. Trading real money and trading phony money will always be different. Demo trading is good for learning the ropes and testing strategies, but that’s about it.
Confidence is a big part of this all, as suggested by the emailer, and I definitely recommend giving a read to the Afraid to Trade? Build Your Trading Confidence post I wrote a little while back. It offers up some advice on how to build/re-build one’s confidence. For this particular person, one part of the equation could be trading smaller so that the swings that seem to be causing the strain aren’t quite so painful.
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Posted on March 13, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Steve wrote :
Hi John,
Funny you should mention trading smaller amounts.
I’ve been trading with Crown on and off since August 2007 they only have Standard accounts. $2000 US later down I opened a Standard account with FXDD with $500 US as I wasn’t overly happy with the speed of execution that Crown Forex had, as we naturally always put the blame elsewhere. That also dropped down to $97 US and at that point, a number of months ago, I asked if they could make it a Micro Account, which they did. I started trading it this morning and have started winning trades 60 pips on the Euro and 60 pips on the GBP.
It definitely has had a large effect psychologically going from risking $40 stop loss or more, depending on the time frame traded, to $4 and of course the losing trades you can imagine. Naturally nowhere near the profit in dollars but to me that’s not the point. Because in the end its about building confidence trading live and moving forward using good money management to get to the single or multiple lot trades.
Many thanks
Kind Regards,
Steve Gilbertson